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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek: Voyager&#8217;s Enduring Popularity?</title>
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		<title>By: Squaremaster316</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squaremaster316</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 11:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There was no marriage on Voyager. &quot;

Did Tom and B&#039;elanna just vanish?

And you&#039;re honestly comparing Rom and Leeta, a couple who&#039;s issues were superfluous at best to the other couples?

The only pairing on DS9 that could be considered multi-layered and deep was Cassidy/Sisko.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There was no marriage on Voyager. &#8221;</p>
<p>Did Tom and B&#8217;elanna just vanish?</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re honestly comparing Rom and Leeta, a couple who&#8217;s issues were superfluous at best to the other couples?</p>
<p>The only pairing on DS9 that could be considered multi-layered and deep was Cassidy/Sisko.</p>
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		<title>By: hausser</title>
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		<dc:creator>hausser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You miss the point, DS9 might be a great show for TNG fans, but Voyager is about the essence, not the enhancend canon of star trek, its about a crew and its ship somewhere out there (final frontier, you remember ?), exploring stuff and meeting aliens, facing the unexpected.
Thats why its famous among &quot;the casual&quot; Sci-Fi Fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You miss the point, DS9 might be a great show for TNG fans, but Voyager is about the essence, not the enhancend canon of star trek, its about a crew and its ship somewhere out there (final frontier, you remember ?), exploring stuff and meeting aliens, facing the unexpected.<br />
Thats why its famous among &#8220;the casual&#8221; Sci-Fi Fan.</p>
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		<title>By: SBOSlayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBOSlayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I loved voyager :) I&#039;ve watched all the star trek shows and it&#039;s my favourite. It never ceases to amaze me, how much these apparently &quot;true trekKies&quot; think it was rubbish. The stories were interesting, but comparing it to DS9... well I did like DS9, but the first 3 seasons were a grind and boring. I play STO and am in 2 fleets with the the majority of people agree with that statement. The religious aspects of DS9, were a bit stupid to me and the ending wasn&#039;t that good, but the run up to the ending of the series was fantastic. Well that&#039;s my opinion, but, i did love voyager regardless of it&#039;s criticisms, but I must agree that some episodes of Voy weren&#039;t up to the greatest standard, but most Tv shows have their off episodes. As it&#039;s just an opinion :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I loved voyager :) I&#8217;ve watched all the star trek shows and it&#8217;s my favourite. It never ceases to amaze me, how much these apparently &#8220;true trekKies&#8221; think it was rubbish. The stories were interesting, but comparing it to DS9&#8230; well I did like DS9, but the first 3 seasons were a grind and boring. I play STO and am in 2 fleets with the the majority of people agree with that statement. The religious aspects of DS9, were a bit stupid to me and the ending wasn&#8217;t that good, but the run up to the ending of the series was fantastic. Well that&#8217;s my opinion, but, i did love voyager regardless of it&#8217;s criticisms, but I must agree that some episodes of Voy weren&#8217;t up to the greatest standard, but most Tv shows have their off episodes. As it&#8217;s just an opinion :P</p>
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		<title>By: TornadoVideogames</title>
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		<dc:creator>TornadoVideogames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked DS9 better as well.  The cast was very solid overall, and the second half of the series dealing with the war against the Jem Hadar certainly opened many possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked DS9 better as well.  The cast was very solid overall, and the second half of the series dealing with the war against the Jem Hadar certainly opened many possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McQuillan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McQuillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you may be drastically under-intellectualising this. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may be drastically under-intellectualising this. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are over-intellectualising this. The differing fortunes of the shows are fairly easy to explain. Its about sex. Voyager has a female led authority figure in Janeway and later with the entrance of Seven a top heavy Dominatrix minus the whip.  Lots of Star Ttrek fans are submissive geeky guys who deep lust down lust after such women.

Its not about plot complexity its about dominant women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are over-intellectualising this. The differing fortunes of the shows are fairly easy to explain. Its about sex. Voyager has a female led authority figure in Janeway and later with the entrance of Seven a top heavy Dominatrix minus the whip.  Lots of Star Ttrek fans are submissive geeky guys who deep lust down lust after such women.</p>
<p>Its not about plot complexity its about dominant women.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Durham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Durham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most trek fans I&#039;ve ever talked to prefer either TOS or TNG...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most trek fans I&#8217;ve ever talked to prefer either TOS or TNG&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, although I think you&#039;re a bit harsh on Voyager. Seven&#039;s character is the very thing that gave it a lot of depth. Dark Frontier. Drone. And my personal fave VOY episode, Survival Instinct. The Doctor was annoying, especially in later seasons. I don&#039;t believe the Borg were overused, although I think 8472 were underused.

Yes, Deep Space Nine was better, for the reasons you mentioned. However, while I like In the Pale Moonlight, none of the rest of the cast&#039;s moments can compare to Kira&#039;s. Duet. The Darkness and the Light. Ties of Blood and Water. Wrongs Darker than Death or Night. 

I also find Moonlight a bit overrated. In terms of episodes with messages, we have things like Duet, Second Skin, Past Tense, The Visitor, Rejoined, Hard Time, The Quickening, Nor the Battle to the Strong, Things Past, The Darkness and the Light, and The Sound of Her Voice. In terms of moments, we have the Garak/Tain scenes in In Purgatory&#039;s Shadow and By Inferno&#039;s Light, the Kira/Bareil scene at the end of Life Support, The Kira/Odo scene at the end of Children of Time, the Vedek hanging herself in Rocks and Shoals, the wedding, the battle in The Siege of AR-558, and Winn accepting the Pah-Wraiths in Strange Bedfellows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, although I think you&#8217;re a bit harsh on Voyager. Seven&#8217;s character is the very thing that gave it a lot of depth. Dark Frontier. Drone. And my personal fave VOY episode, Survival Instinct. The Doctor was annoying, especially in later seasons. I don&#8217;t believe the Borg were overused, although I think 8472 were underused.</p>
<p>Yes, Deep Space Nine was better, for the reasons you mentioned. However, while I like In the Pale Moonlight, none of the rest of the cast&#8217;s moments can compare to Kira&#8217;s. Duet. The Darkness and the Light. Ties of Blood and Water. Wrongs Darker than Death or Night. </p>
<p>I also find Moonlight a bit overrated. In terms of episodes with messages, we have things like Duet, Second Skin, Past Tense, The Visitor, Rejoined, Hard Time, The Quickening, Nor the Battle to the Strong, Things Past, The Darkness and the Light, and The Sound of Her Voice. In terms of moments, we have the Garak/Tain scenes in In Purgatory&#8217;s Shadow and By Inferno&#8217;s Light, the Kira/Bareil scene at the end of Life Support, The Kira/Odo scene at the end of Children of Time, the Vedek hanging herself in Rocks and Shoals, the wedding, the battle in The Siege of AR-558, and Winn accepting the Pah-Wraiths in Strange Bedfellows.</p>
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		<title>By: Roshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t watched more than a handful of episodes of DS9 but I do like the show. However, I think you are  giving Voyager the short end of the stick - it was a wonderful show. I didn&#039;t think that much of the 1-3 seasons - they had their moments (the dilemma of Tuvix for example) but it was just above average. Season 4 to 7 were hugely more complex. Season 4 was the best. I&#039;d have to watch more of DS9 to actually compare it with Voy, Exterprise, TNG &amp; TOS but from what I saw I wasn&#039;t that impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t watched more than a handful of episodes of DS9 but I do like the show. However, I think you are  giving Voyager the short end of the stick &#8211; it was a wonderful show. I didn&#8217;t think that much of the 1-3 seasons &#8211; they had their moments (the dilemma of Tuvix for example) but it was just above average. Season 4 to 7 were hugely more complex. Season 4 was the best. I&#8217;d have to watch more of DS9 to actually compare it with Voy, Exterprise, TNG &amp; TOS but from what I saw I wasn&#8217;t that impressed.</p>
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